Llandegla First Black Run Times Options

[Rod]

2011 TIMES

Joe (Big Hs Son)... 29/10/11 ..... 3.09 ish commenced run on the move and guestimate on when finished and stopping time
Big H................... 29/10/11 ..... 3.13 ish commenced run on the move and guestimate on stopping time
Rod..................... 27/04/11 ..... 3.17..........................'05 SX trail .......................................... dry as you like and dusty
Rod..................... 03/07/11 ..... 3.18..........................'05 SX trail .......................................... dry and pretty much perfect







2010 times...

Dougs fault as he went and started me off again by stating a time and this this years run is different by virtue of redesigned corners and berms.


Jon (still not a member but setting the pace marker 3:14.77

Rod..................... 02/06/10 ..... 3.20..........................'05 SX trail .......................................... wet in places / but mainly damp
Doug................... 18/04/10 ..... 3.22..........................On-one 456 (hard ass) ......................... Dry
Rod..................... 11/08/10 ..... 3.22..........................'05 SX trail .......................................... bit greasey / damp under yon tyre
IanP ................... 11/08/10 ..... 3.22..........................Trans-X .......................................... bit greasey / damp under yer hoop.
Rod..................... 15/05/10 ..... 3.23..........................'05 SX trail .......................................... Dry
Rod..................... 21/05/10 ..... 3.26.......................... Prophet .............................................. Dry
T.W.Scary ........... 12/07/10 ..... 3.30 ......................... Trance X ............................................ Dry
SirCrashAlot........ 16/08/10 ..... 3.31.......................... Cube AMS 125 .................................... Muddy
Pickwick ...............04/07/10 ..... 3.32 ....................... 07, rockhopper comp .............................very very dry
rewog84...............15/08/10 .... 3.34 ........................ lapierre spicy......................................... Dry
paul fisher ...........16/05/10 ..... 3.39..........................'07 rockhopper comp ............................ Dry
adam aspinall ...... 16/05/10 ..... 3.41.......................... orange p7........................................... Dry
Pickwick ...............20/06/10 ..... 3.43 ....................... 07, rockhopper comp .............................very very dry
david honor.......... 16/05/10 ..... 4.09......................... saracen something self build ................. Dry





New bit... start and stops at the same point.

NAME ............... DATE .........TIME ......... BIKE .................TYRES................................................. CONDITIONS

Rod ................ 02/10/10 ...... 3.10 ...... Trail SX ...... Kenda Small Blocks 8s ...... Wet patches and small puddles.
Rod ................ 24/09/10 ...... 3.12 ...... Trail SX ...... Kenda Small Blocks 8s ...... Wet patches and a bit OMIGOD in places... especially meeting a dog head on! (MUST be worth at least another 5 secs!!!!



(I recon there's a 3.05 to be had... Craig?.... Jon 3.00 dead??? )

















2009 times below for reference only.

Name ...........when riden...time.........................Bike................................... conditions (excuses)
Jon ...............22/11/08.....3:10 ................Enduro SL Comp '08.............Damp (but pretty dry for late autumn, and really cold)
Jon................17/10/09.....3:17 (ruddy show off! AND not a forum member so not counting' til he joins )

Jons times not counting though as he aint a member but it's a guide as to what we are aiming for, though it's not the winning it's the taking part that counts!


Craig (Pugster) ................3:20 ...................... Trek EX8...................... Dry conditions
Rod...............25/04/09.....3.21......................... SX Trail ..................... Dry / couldn't be better (time could be though. LOL)
Craig.............22/11/08.....3:25 ...........Commencal Meta 5 VIP '08.........Damp (but pretty dry for late autumn, and really cold)
Craig (Pugster) 17/10/09 ..3:26...................... Trek EX8......................
Rod...............25/10/09.....3.30 ......................... SX Trail .......... Wet Dry Wet Dry Wet Dry Wet Dry (returning from injury )
Rod.............. 24/01/09 ... 3.33 ......................... SX Trail ..................... Damp / wet with threat of ice... OK wet 'n' squirmy
Doug.............17/10/09.....3.38..........................Yeti AS-X ................... Dry (returning from ill health)
CameraMan...13/12/08.....3.39.............................................................Damp / Wet
Steveleic.......13/12/08.....3.39.............................................................Damp / Wet
Nik................22/11/08.....3:40......... ..........GT I-Drive 5 .....................Damp
Rod...............25/11/08.....3:43..........................Prophet.......................Frosty (but it was light this time)
richyrich........30/12/08.....3.45.......................Giant trance 1.................dry frosty very cold
TonyF............24/01/09....4.19......................Spesh Stumpy (?).............. wet 'n' squirmy
Rod...............19/11/08.....4:28 (IN DARK!!)........SX Trail ......................Damp / wet (ref: post in "Llandegla black run time?")
Boolie ...........22/11/08.....4:58....................Marin Alpine Trail...............Damp

[Nik]

Doug was on his new shiny On-one HT and it was the 18th April.

Cant wait to give it a blast on my new HT. HT's are deffo the right tool for the job.

[Old bert would]

I take it we are still using the same start and finish locations?

I will give it go next time i'm there but not before i've done WRT because i just know the red mist will decend and injury will follow!

Rob

[Rod]

Yes indeedy sir.

Standing start with front wheel round about level with the tree on the right at the head of the trail. Time stops as soon as you can stop and take a reading when leaving the trail when it joins the fire road.

No taking a second or two off the time "as read" to allow for stopping and reading the clock

Your philosophy may be the best policy... take it easy. No prizes and none (?) of us make a living out of riding a bike but we all stand to lose our source of £ to live if we get it wrong.

Gawd... that's gone and put a curse on me now!

R d

[trouble]

Are those minutes & seconds?
Couldn't even eat a butty in those times!

SERIOUSLY, sounds like an ace idea. Where are the start and stop points and more importantly what is the route?
Just asking for all those other wanna have a go heroes out there. I always carry a tent with me when I leave the front door. Siht you never know. Snow, volcanoes or just traffic jams!

[that_was_scary]

Doug was on his new shiny On-one HT and it was the 18th April.

Cant wait to give it a blast on my new HT. HT's are deffo the right tool for the job.

Does that mean I have to bring two bikes to Wales next time Im up that way?

I never got round to setting a time last year hope to this year.


How oftern are the Athertons at Llandegla? I'd be interested to see what times they could set on the run?

I done the Muc off 8 a few weeks ago it had a timed down hill section with Steve Peat setting a time of 2mins 2 secs, I was only 40 seconds off his time with a fall and summer tyres on off camber slick mud (thats my excuse anyway)

[Rod]

I'd love to know what time a proffesional could do too!
Come on down Rachel, Dan and Gee!
Or anyone else who's a top 50 national contender.
I'd guess a 2.50 may be in the offing?
Rod

[Rod]

Pugster... I just noticed my clock doesn't stop until I'm stationary for 3 seconds... Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.


I put a formal appeal in to the stewards (me) but I said it was too late for a protest now. As a result the erm, results still stands.

But I'm out to getcha this year.... hopefully.

R d

(Might give it a go in the moaning if my seatpost arrives.)

[pugster007]

OK Rod.

I'll race you - next Wednesday evening ? 19th May.

Craig.

[Rod]

OK Rod.

I'll race you - next Wednesday evening ? 19th May.

Craig.

Could well do. I'm likely to be up there at about 6.15 ish?

Times wont compare to last years though as there are significant alterations to the trail.

Putting some new tyres on now so I don't know how they / I'll cope? (smallblock 8s)
Ever used 'em?

Rod

[pickwick]

going again sunday only been once before where is this run so i can give it a try is it the yellow pine jumps on the map

[Rod]

After the jumps mate.
You come upon the run in question ( I call it the first black run... though technically I believe the jumps are rated black... go figure? )
anyways up carry on past the jumps and down the trail and depending on whether the diversion is still in place or not it's a little hard to give directions but carry on until you come to 170 degree R/H turn that then goes about 7 yards and gives an option of BLACK then RED very close together both entrances being on the left, It is signed as READ THIS FIRST or some such wordage. All in all about a mile I guess passed the jump section?

It's worth doing the little bit of RED branch then coming back up via the fire road if you want a gentle warm up as it flows quite nicely.

Start with front wheel level with the tree on the right which gives a slightly lumpy up slope start and finish as soon as you can stop at the bottom fire road... hopefully 3 minutes + later. If you do it in less than 3 mins you either cheated or took a wrong turn OR maybe you could possibly be classed as a rather good rider?

onn OPAs map it is W72 start W118 finish

Rod

[Rod]

wnet today and oh boy I is now officially BOLLOXT. By 48 secs my legs were sulking!

There's me thinking I was fitter than last time...


R d


Next contender please ...


Doug was your time with the new lay-out?

[pickwick]

b there tomorrow 9 ish cant wait to give it try let you know how i got on!

[Rod]

b there tomorrow 9 ish cant wait to give it try let you know how i got on!

what ever the time get it posted please.
Hope you have / had a good ride. At the moment I'm nursing one of my 2 or 3 hang-overs a year... why do I do it!?

R d

[pickwick]

did
paul fisher .................................................3.39...........................
....................07 rockhopper comp
adam aspinall.............................................3.41.......................
.........................orange p7
david honor.................................................4.09......................
.........................saracen something self build

hope to beat these next time brilliant against clock!!

[Rod]

Thanks for that.
I see the hard tails are takin' over
good first effort btw

Of course all the named are members of this forum or soon will be...?

[pickwick]

im paul i have told the other two to join asap!

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[Rod]

3.25 on the Prophet.
Front end felt very odd (looks like a fault on the rebound... alot faster than it was and will only adjust to rebound faster??????)
I also paced myself too slow at the beginning.

Rod

[Rod]

SX Trail - 3.20

Well then, this time I paced myself nearly right having a bit too much breath/ legs left at the end but not much I have to say!

Before looking at my watch I was convinced that this one was a good one and would be around 3.15 but alass, on checking it was a 3.20.
Still an improvement. I'm guessing that the high left 170 degree switch-back around a tree and the really cut-up right hander that over-looks the valley is adding time to last years runs?

Come on Pugster chuck a time in for comparison would yer?


Tyers wise I have switched to Small Block 8s running a "Ghetto" set-up this year and thus far I'm blinkin' astonished at the grip they offer on groomed trail surfaces... 10/10 and they roll great too! They were ruddy tight getting them on to the rims however and as such I nearly gave up!

So come on all you who ride at 'Degla make a point of logging a time.

R d