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pickwick
post Jul 25 2010, 02:10 PM
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been on first 30 miler this morn rode from wigan up to the mast at winter hill back down past pigeon tower to barn then back down through haigh hall.
There is quite a bit of climbing involved in this ride a lot on the road though. it took us nearly 4 hours a mate of mine reckons this is slow ( he hasnt done this ride he is more on road near lytham where its flat) what does everyone think i thought we did ok.
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post Jul 25 2010, 02:16 PM
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QUOTE(pickwick @ Jul 25 2010, 03:10 PM) *
been on first 30 miler this morn rode from wigan up to the mast at winter hill back down past pigeon tower to barn then back down through haigh hall.
There is quite a bit of climbing involved in this ride a lot on the road though. it took us nearly 4 hours a mate of mine reckons this is slow ( he hasnt done this ride he is more on road near lytham where its flat) what does everyone think i thought we did ok.


It really depends, 30 miles can take a little over an hour on road or 5 hours off road depending on fitness, trail conditions and weather etc in any case unless your racing does it matter?


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pickwick
post Jul 25 2010, 02:29 PM
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no doesnt really matter just this mate p***ing me off keep saying were going slow, i cant get through to him that its a lot harder riding off road.
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post Jul 25 2010, 02:47 PM
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QUOTE(pickwick @ Jul 25 2010, 03:29 PM) *
no doesnt really matter just this mate p***ing me off keep saying were going slow, i cant get through to him that its a lot harder riding off road.


get him out with you rolleyes.gif


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pickwick
post Jul 25 2010, 03:26 PM
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keep trying mate he keeps letting us down, although when i speak to him he could beat every time we do and higher and farther than any of us and beat steve peat down fort william.
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post Jul 25 2010, 03:45 PM
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Sounds about right, my average on my fittest days on a full boing are around 7 to 8 mph over that terrain, 8 to 10 mph on a hardtail.
The guy is talking out of his f*cking *rse and proves as such by failing to ride with you imho.

that said i dont doubt a racing snake could average say 12 or 13mph, but 15 to 18 mph on the flat is seriously pushing it on an mtb off road, and then to try and sustain this speed is lung busting over anything more then a a few mile for me!
then you got to factor in the climbs where i have seen my speed drop to 4 mph or even 2mph depending on the severity, and lets face it winter hill is bloody severe!

Just an example, and this route isnt particularly hilly... http://sportstracker.nokia.com/nts/workout...x.do?id=2565659


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post Jul 25 2010, 03:47 PM
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the climb from horwich up past the baths nearly killed me off lmao
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post Jul 25 2010, 04:07 PM
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Tell me about it! The ride up to Anglezarke viewpoint is a particular "favourite"


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pickwick
post Jul 25 2010, 05:17 PM
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its a great ride back down from the mast though the one where you come out at the kennels, there are some ace drop offs some actually better than the man made ones at gisburn and llandegla. stupidlyhappy.gif
really enjoyed todays ride apart from some owd ramblers whinging about us going down from the pigeon tower. we slowed right down and moved right across the track out of their way but they still had to say something.
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post Jul 26 2010, 10:15 PM
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Speed/time/distance varies.Off road you're always going to be slower.
I've done a 60 mile road-ride from Kettering to Rutland Water and back in just over 4.5 hours(damn near killed me).In that time range I'm looking at 20 miles or so in the Peak District.I used to ride with a guy that took over 5 hours to do the Marin Trail and when he went to Glentress it took him 9 hours disgusted.gif (glad I wasn't there).


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post Jul 27 2010, 07:41 AM
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Riding off road (and to some extent on road) is better measured in hours and effort (power or HR) rather then speed and distance.......conditions have such a dramatic effect.
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post Jul 27 2010, 09:45 AM
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It's not how far or how fast you go it's how much you enjoy it that counts.


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post Jul 27 2010, 11:35 AM
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I bet if your super mate did come with you he'd slow you down! ohmy.gif


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post Jul 27 2010, 12:05 PM
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QUOTE(DrBike @ Jul 27 2010, 10:45 AM) *
It's not how far or how fast you go it's how much you enjoy it that counts.


I Agree agree.gif


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pickwick
post Jul 27 2010, 03:56 PM
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well all three of us who did the ride thoroughly enjoyed it! stupidlyhappy.gif
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post Jul 28 2010, 11:04 AM
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QUOTE(Ibbo @ Jul 26 2010, 11:15 PM) *
......I used to ride with a guy that took over 5 hours to do the Marin Trail and when he went to Glentress it took him 9 hours disgusted.gif (glad I wasn't there).


Funny that. I don't think we've ever met??? think.gif







To be fair to myself, Glentress - the full Black route - took me and my son about four hours rather than nine, but we met a guy who reckoned his average time for that was an hour, and I seem to recall Tom Owen (where he now?) saying he could do it in an hour and a quarter... That first guy also said when he wasn't in Scotland mtbing, he did about 100 miles a day on his (very impressive looking) carbon road bike unsure.gif


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post Jul 28 2010, 12:07 PM
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Aye - it's all relative

I ride the Malverns most weeks, and half the time I'll wizz past people making hard work of the hills......only to feel a slight breeze as one of the XC guys then powers his way past me in the big ring!
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post Jul 28 2010, 01:53 PM
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i once rode 90miles in 4 minutes.














but that was on downhill domination on the ps2 sad.gif


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post Aug 6 2010, 01:12 PM
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does the swift half in the pub beer.gif and smoke breaks count on your ride time? What about man handling you bike up a short cut through the bracken? And the chat with the bobby on a police hardtail that you meet riding on a public footpath?

And why are you bothering being mates with a roadie anyway? laugh.gif


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post Aug 6 2010, 05:05 PM
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And why are you bothering being mates with a roadie anyway? laugh.gif
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he doesnt ride a road bike he just thinks riding a mountain bike on the road is mountain biking, at the moment we have been riding on the road but only to get to rivvi cant see the point in driving there when can get some miles in.
when we go we do the road miles to get to rivvi and healey nab he just rides on flat roads and a couple of flat bridleways or coastal roads.
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