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Speedy Al
post Aug 17 2007, 03:13 PM
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i was considering a gps system for off road map reading, i have never used one but think it may be a good investment for these up and coming off roading trips.

All i see on the net is GARMIN and i have seen some bad reports, does anybody use GPS instead of maps and is it any good?


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Orange Al
post Aug 17 2007, 03:22 PM
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I use a an Eten M700 mobile phone and run Memory Map on it, if your due a mobile update it certainly is a great option. Currently cost around 60 on a 35/month tariff

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post Aug 17 2007, 03:30 PM
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I've been using the Garmin Quest for years & it is a robust waterproof unit that has never let me down, but I would like a unit with the Garmin features that shows OS mapping on screen but apart from using a fragile PDA type system I do not know of a system that would survive muddy offroad rides repeatedly.
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bazza
post Aug 17 2007, 05:20 PM
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I use a Garmin GPSmap 60cs - now discontinued.
Can't fault it.
Does all I want, and then some.
Have it mounted on the bars (when needed), and even bought another bracket for the other bike.

It's not fancy. It's not 'Tom-Tom'. It won't give you a sexy voice telling you to 'turn left in 100yds'.
It's aimed at outdoor/marine usage - and as such is very ruggedised, and waterproof.

The colour display is a bonus, as is being able to view the maps on it in realtime.

Rather than me blather on, ask me specific questions (if you want) about it, and I'll try to answer them.


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Tuffty
post Aug 17 2007, 07:06 PM
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I have a Garmin gpsmap60csx and its the muts rolleyes.gif
Bought it really for doingThis
I have installed garmins own topo maps, and also use memory map for route planning


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Speedy Al
post Aug 17 2007, 08:25 PM
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ill take a look at the gps map 60 and put it on my christmas list rolleyes.gif

also found a couple of geocashe in my local park, one by accident and one i went out to find , thats a great reason to buy one dance.gif

the mobile phone Al is too expensive for me, looks nice thou ..


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post Aug 17 2007, 09:47 PM
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QUOTE(Speedy Al @ Aug 17 2007, 04:13 PM) *
i was considering a gps system for off road map reading, i have never used one but think it may be a good investment for these up and coming off roading trips.

All i see on the net is GARMIN and i have seen some bad reports, does anybody use GPS instead of maps and is it any good?

There is no doubt that GPS can be an invaluable tool on the trail,however its not foolproof and should always be used with an OS/Harveymap.(sermon over)
I've been using a Garmin E-Trex Vista for about 18 months,can't fault it.I use it with memory map and plotting routes/downloading couldn't be easier!!Everyone has their own fave GPS unit/software its a matter of choice and/or budget.Personnaly i wouldn't go back to paper maps(alone)again.I am now going to upgrade to an Garmin E-trex Vista CX(colour)i like it that much agree.gif
I think that Memory map/arquet/tracklogs all have their +/- points,try the free downloads and choose the one that suits you best.


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post Aug 19 2007, 06:19 PM
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got the garmin legend cx very robust ive thrashed the hell out of mine and still works a treat alan........


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post Aug 19 2007, 07:00 PM
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QUOTE(joiner @ Aug 19 2007, 07:19 PM) *
got the garmin legend cx very robust ive thrashed the hell out of mine and still works a treat alan........


"cough" It's always wise to read how to use it first "cough" tongue.gif


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post Aug 19 2007, 07:13 PM
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learning bodge my friend slow but sure innocent.gif


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post Aug 19 2007, 09:19 PM
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QUOTE(joiner @ Aug 19 2007, 08:13 PM) *
learning bodge my friend slow but sure innocent.gif


Sorry Glynn, only teasing. I still get in a knot with mine occasionally.

I use an E-Trex Summit with Anquet maps. Plot the route on laptop, download to GPS and simply follow the arrow out on the trail. I always print off a copy of the map too as you still need to look at that sometimes.

Planning to try Tracklogs soon as they are loads cheaper and you can see the path under the route line. Anybody used Tracklogs?

If you go on a route with someone who knows where they're going, you can set the GPS to log the route, and then download it to your PC to save for later use. And you can use it like a cycle computer to log distance, time, average and top speed, height climbed and loads of other interesting stuff.

My GPS has taken a bit of a bashing on my bar mount and has had a couple of wobbles, so I now tend to hang it from the shoulder straps on my backpack to isolate it from vibrations.

But as Speedy Al started this thread off, and he's had a go on FS, I guess the money might be going elsewhere wink.gif


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post Aug 19 2007, 09:33 PM
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only a knot ive still got mine in a full noose........... dizzy.gif


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Speedy Al
post Aug 19 2007, 09:42 PM
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theres far too much new kit to buy dry.gif

Glynn ill take another look at the gps you have some time, i know for sure the mounting kit works fine whistling.gif

thanks guys


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1gearnoidea
post Aug 20 2007, 02:05 PM
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yeah didnt u know al'..glynn is the officail mtb tester...if it withstands a glynn tumble..its fine for us mere mortals rolleyes.gif


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post Aug 20 2007, 04:33 PM
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Tony F
post Aug 25 2007, 09:21 AM
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Anybody had experience of the Garmin Edge 205 GPS and cycle computer?

They're available on Ebay for 75, which looks like a bargain, but are they any good?

I'm not 'bovvered' about all the training info it can provide, though it would be nice to have I guess, but I quite fancy a decent navigation aid.

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PS - I'd be using Memory Map software if that makes any difference...


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post Aug 25 2007, 06:07 PM
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QUOTE(Tony F @ Aug 25 2007, 10:21 AM) *
Anybody had experience of the Garmin Edge 205 GPS and cycle computer?


Well Tony, on my weeks riding in the North York Moors earlier this year. I had my GPS60 and my mate had a Forerunner 205........I may be wrong but I think that that is just a wrist version of the Edge 205.

Well anyway, for what it's worth........it had limited waypoint storage and could not have a "route" from Memory Map downloaded to it. I had my laptop with me on the holiday and changed and devised routes each evening and downloaded them to my GPS60, but on the day my mate went off on his own ride, all he could do was input a few key waypoints into MM and then download those to the 205.
Therefore, not really a navigation tool and more for training etc for repeat runs of the same course. (Actually bought it for his wife's marathon running).
The good thing about it was that it tracked the trails we did better than my GPS60. It was actually spot on even under trees whereas mine wandered off a bit until it found a signal again.
He WAS able to import the tracks it created into Memory Map......which was how we found it was more accurate than mine.

I use the GPS60 as I find it rugged and waterproof....(it has survived a few crashes) and was only 100. It has good battery life and good route and waypoint storage and as said above......once the route from MM has been downloaded, I just set it into "Highway Mode" and follow the arrow. It conveniently "beeps" at every waypoint and I always set waypoints at every turn, and it zooms in on the turn on the approach so you can glance down and see the turn on the device and then see it in the road......and then it zooms out again to show the main route to follow.
I always use in conjunction with a map of course.


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Tony F
post Aug 25 2007, 07:46 PM
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Thanks for this Steve (?). I think I'll give it a miss...

I hadn't realised you were in Southport. Where do you ride locally? Possibility of meeting up perhaps?

I'm in Ormskirk, and the best route I've managed to devise so far for local exercise involves the L-L canal towpath (Scarisbrick- Maghull) then back via the Trans-Pennine route on the old Cheshire Lines railway to Ainsdale then across the moss lanes (about 35k with 90m of, erm, 'ascent'). Is there anywhere a bit more entertaining and accessible locally?

Anyway - cheers for the response.

Tony


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Speedy Al
post Feb 1 2008, 08:13 PM
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oh boy back on the case, are ther any bargains going on in GPS terms at the moment?


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1gearnoidea
post Feb 1 2008, 08:39 PM
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ebay normally have the garmin 205's for sale at 65 quid al'.....but as above they do have limited functions...


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