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Biggsy80
Evening All

I can make Sunday, @Shmikuk / Bent Wheel... wherever you are, the cafe is never that far away in Swinley! biggrin.gif

I would be up for a Tues night ride, but cant get to Look out any earlier than 7-30pm so understand if its too late for for everyone else.

Ben
Bent Wheel
If you have cramp in both quads it can be a very long way!! Do they have oxygen and a defibrillator? last time I looked they only had a couple of waterproof plasters stretcher.gif

Should be able to make Sunday, just depends on the start time, would prefer early on Sunday morning at least I have the afternoon free, or a midday / 1pm start so I have the morning free.
Stan Leigh
QUOTE(Biggsy80 @ Jan 30 2011, 08:07 PM) *
Evening All

I can make Sunday, @Shmikuk / Bent Wheel... wherever you are, the cafe is never that far away in Swinley! biggrin.gif

I would be up for a Tues night ride, but cant get to Look out any earlier than 7-30pm so understand if its too late for for everyone else.

Ben


Don't suppose you could make Mytchett near Camberley for 7.15pm ? The Trolls have got one of thier Super Tuesdays on . dry.gif
Biggsy80
@ Bent Wheel.... LOL, good point! on the calender it states a 9am start... unless there has been a time change earlier in forum which I have missed??

@ Stanleigh.... possibly.. will check work comitments tomorrow and see if I can disappear early.. could maybe take bike to work and go straight from there. Will let you know tomorrow if thats OK

Took the wife out for a quick spin today in Swinley (she has not been out since August!) applogoies on her behalf if anyone was out and hear the air turning blue! icon_redface.gif

thel33ter
Was at Tunnel Hill today, suprised at just how much there is around there. And a nice 4ft drop agree.gif

But the Seesaw thing is gone... After 2 hours of looking for it, the pile of sticks was major disappointment.
French_Aristo
QUOTE(Bent Wheel @ Jan 30 2011, 04:51 PM) *
Good ride with Muscleburn this morning, took a slightly different route this week and did probably 70% fire roads / double track. Boring it was not and it was nice to stretch the legs for longer periods and crank out a few miles. Tend to find with single tracks I take more breathers where including more fire roads and such I go longer with less breaks.

Route is below for anyone interested.

http://connect.garmin.com/activity/65847755

Explored "over the fence" today which was good, although mainly fire roads / double track there are some interesting bits in there and some interesting climbs, more exploring next time out me thinks, as you can see from the route we did double back a couple of times as we hit dead ends. Could see me putting together some 1-2 mile laps in there and doing some "Laps" with the GPS and the virtual racer. Can imagine it's a bit of a heat trap in there in the summer as well so may be good for some endurance work. Can see why "French Aristo" includes that area in his regular rides.

The riding today, fire roads and single track was pretty good going, the mud is drying up and the tracks are significantly faster than 2-3 weeks ago which is nice, thought my fitness was getting worse instead of better but putting that down to the conditions. Should have dumped the Panaracer XC Pro's for more of a summer tyre, if the rain holds off this week then I may well do that next weekend.

Which brings me on to next weekend and the planned 28 miles, I notice the ride in the "New Ride" section, but what is the likely start time / duration / pace? Never ridden more than 20 miles in a single session so may struggle for the last 8 miles or so, but would be good to try and push a longer distance, especially if the conditions are favourable.

Oh yeah, Muscleburn popped his front forks today and blew a seal, any excuse to buy some new forks naughty.gif ....that will teach him for taking out the spare bike instead main bike


Sandhurst is mostly fire trails and double track but as the climb are either fairly hard or slightly longer than the rest of Swinley Forest, it is a good place to get some miles under your belt and train for XC.
This said if you know where to look some of the places are technical enough for most to go down the hill either walking or with the full hand of back brake...

Here is my ride for today. Call it short after 18:30 as I didn't have t a headlight (took my full face enduro helmet as the camera mount is on it and I got bored doing the single tracks DH at slower speed as I could see shit in the corner until the bike already turned in

QUOTE(Biggsy80 @ Jan 30 2011, 08:07 PM) *
I can make Sunday, @Shmikuk / Bent Wheel... wherever you are, the cafe is never that far away in Swinley! biggrin.gif

That all depend on where I take you. Might be surprised!!! cool.gif

QUOTE(Bent Wheel @ Jan 30 2011, 08:44 PM) *
If you have cramp in both quads it can be a very long way!! Do they have oxygen and a defibrillator? last time I looked they only had a couple of waterproof plasters stretcher.gif

Should be able to make Sunday, just depends on the start time, would prefer early on Sunday morning at least I have the afternoon free, or a midday / 1pm start so I have the morning free.

Meet at 09:00, gone on the trails by 09:30 no matter what. tongue.gif
Rule is, if my dog can run it, we can bike it.
just make sure you have a nice breakfast and take some sweets and energy bars of some sort with you to replenish on the slowest part of the trail rolleyes.gif
Just joking, we will stop. You just have to get on top of the hill first and wait for the others to arrive innocent.gif
The route is passing by either the top or the bottom of Surrey Hill every 15km or so. Usually the best time to bell out and head home via "the motorway"
DrBike
I can't do Sunday but have posted a ride for Saturday morning, usual time usual place.
mbElf
QUOTE(thel33ter @ Jan 30 2011, 09:22 PM) *
Was at Tunnel Hill today, suprised at just how much there is around there. And a nice 4ft drop agree.gif

But the Seesaw thing is gone... After 2 hours of looking for it, the pile of sticks was major disappointment.



thel33ter,

there is soo much around there and its great stuff. I having been trying to organise a newbie ride at TH there but there does not seem to be much interest from the regular swinners. I friend of mine lives there and has it all linked up really nice. I think TH is a crosss between Swinley and Surrey Hills. I will have another go at organising something perhaps mid march.

Maj

P.S I hope cooldad is fully recovered.
Stan Leigh
MBelf , if you can sort a Tunnel Hill ride , I'm sure there would be plenty of interest. Sandy Hill's little jolly was well received , we all agreed somewhere new with a local guide is always looked forward to . stupidlyhappy.gif

Anybody out anywhere wednesday evening ?
Shmikuk
I'll second that! ^


FA, I've a mate that wants to join us on Sunday but can only ride for an hour or so due to family, can we start at 9 rather than 930?
French_Aristo
QUOTE(Stan Leigh @ Jan 30 2011, 09:06 PM) *
Don't suppose you could make Mytchett near Camberley for 7.15pm ? The Trolls have got one of thier Super Tuesdays on . dry.gif

Is that a dog friendly ride?
thel33ter
QUOTE(mbElf @ Jan 31 2011, 12:50 PM) *
thel33ter,

there is soo much around there and its great stuff. I having been trying to organise a newbie ride at TH there but there does not seem to be much interest from the regular swinners. I friend of mine lives there and has it all linked up really nice. I think TH is a crosss between Swinley and Surrey Hills. I will have another go at organising something perhaps mid march.

Maj

P.S I hope cooldad is fully recovered.


He was out on Saturday, and crashed into the same shoulder again... But he seems fine.

Tunnel Hill is much more compact than Swinley, and has less trails, but they are all well made, and have plenty of bombholes. Not too much climbing either.
Stan Leigh
QUOTE(French_Aristo @ Jan 31 2011, 07:21 PM) *
Is that a dog friendly ride?


Dunno FA , the ride has now changed , they're doing Deepcut , Porridge Pot Hill & then Swinley direction. Never been on this one , but I'm guessing 40+ riders & at least crossing some roads . So no , not doggy friendly ! Sorry dry.gif
Bent Wheel
FA, do you have a GPS map of the route you plan to take us on on Sunday or will it be a first time route of that length combining everything you know?
French_Aristo
QUOTE(Bent Wheel @ Feb 1 2011, 08:16 PM) *
FA, do you have a GPS map of the route you plan to take us on on Sunday or will it be a first time route of that length combining everything you know?

I never recorded the ride and admittedly never rode it as it will be ridden on Sunday but to give you an idea the route goes:
Watson's wander
pip's seat
more unnamed(as far as I know off) single tracks
Corkscrew
Bomb Hole Drops for those the fancy a bit of fun in them while the other take a 5 minutes brake
back to Pip's Seat and down to Seagull
Tank traps
then heading to Sandhust Academy ground to do a little xc loop and head back toward the Telecom tower then back down to "The Wall"
Deer Stalker/Baby maker/can't remember the name of the third (here you can either walk back and do all three or just wait for those who do having a break and some food etc..
Then everybody (assuming anyone is still at it) head into the Labyrint
Little up hill back up to "The Wall"
Down "The long Run"
more single track and up Surrey Hill
Back down to the Jump Gully for so fun if anyone is feeling it
XC on the Old Bracknell Road turning left into Definite Alley
Back down so nice single track heading toward the lake
XC along Bagshot border
more xc across the part of Sandhurst we missed on the way in and then along the firing range
and finely some nice single track pretty much all the way back to the car park

the whole idea of the route is to be diverse and although I could used practically only single tracks, most people including me will enjoy some xc style fire road on flat, DH or low inclined so that they can rest their muscle while still moving avoiding the long stops that you have in some ride
If you have the tarmac riddle XC Caesar's Camp of 2 weeks ago, this will be no issue(ish)
Just bring food with as we will never be any shop
Shmikuk
Looking forward to it! Let's hope it's dry!
deadkenny
QUOTE(thel33ter @ Jan 31 2011, 07:38 PM) *
Tunnel Hill is much more compact than Swinley, and has less trails, but they are all well made, and have plenty of bombholes. Not too much climbing either.

Linked with Porridgepot over the road, there's enough there to keep me happy for hours playing about. If you're looking for long XC loops then not really a good place though.

Must do it some more seeing as it's near to me. Most people seem to prefer riding it at night though for some reason.
Biggsy80
Morning, just checked website and there is a race this sunday in crowthorne woods, will this affect the route for sundays ride?
Shmikuk
QUOTE(Biggsy80 @ Feb 2 2011, 08:04 AM) *
Morning, just checked website and there is a race this sunday in crowthorne woods, will this affect the route for sundays ride?


Damn, I'm sure Frederic was saying he was planning on heading towards the corkscrew. I'm sure FA can find enough to keep us entertained though.
Stan Leigh
Right , I don't want to tempt fate here , but I appear to have a free weekend once again , so I'll be out Sunday & what about Friday night FA , any night riding planned ? dry.gif
Shmikuk
Can't make this Friday night. See you guys Sunday!
French_Aristo
QUOTE(Stan Leigh @ Feb 2 2011, 05:24 PM) *
Right , I don't want to tempt fate here , but I appear to have a free weekend once again , so I'll be out Sunday & what about Friday night FA , any night riding planned ? dry.gif

I am going out but seems to be just me. If you are up for it, just let me know ! what time you wanna start
cooldad
Fail.
thel33ter
I may be around on Sunday, will know tomorrow evening.
Stan Leigh
QUOTE(French_Aristo @ Feb 2 2011, 07:37 PM) *
I am going out but seems to be just me. If you are up for it, just let me know ! what time you wanna start


I'm free any time 1730 onwards , don't mind how late or long the ride is. Post up a time & I'll be there ! tongue.gif
French_Aristo
QUOTE(Shmikuk @ Feb 2 2011, 01:32 PM) *
Damn, I'm sure Frederic was saying he was planning on heading towards the corkscrew. I'm sure FA can find enough to keep us entertained though.

I seriously dough that they use the same track as we do. For what I know about there previous routes, we might cross one or two fire road that they use but as we are not a big group they should not even notice that we were there. Ninja style innocent.gif
The only issue might be the corkscrew but we can either bypass it by riding across strait from the starting drop or pick up the pass for 3 minutes and go through it at racing pace (it is a very technical place with a lot of tight switch back so not really the fastest place of their route.
We will figure it out.
The trip there is more for the view we get from the top of the hill before heading toward the corkscrew than anything else.

See you all ready to take of at 09:00 at the lookout gate. Water & food a must.
Looks like it should be dry(ish) and with warmish (for the season) temperature


QUOTE(Stan Leigh @ Feb 2 2011, 08:05 PM) *
I'm free any time 1730 onwards , don't mind how late or long the ride is. Post up a time & I'll be there ! tongue.gif


18:00 then
We will ride until one of us give up an beg to head back then worship.gif
Stan Leigh
Party on dude ! stupidlyhappy.gif
Shmikuk
Possibly two more for Sundays ride! smile.gif
French_Aristo
QUOTE(Shmikuk @ Feb 3 2011, 07:36 AM) *
Possibly two more for Sundays ride! smile.gif

Let's do a head count on tomorrow and get details so that we have all mobiles in case we loose someone in the woods
ohmy.gif
sandy hill
QUOTE(French_Aristo @ Feb 3 2011, 07:52 AM) *
Let's do a head count on tomorrow and get details so that we have all mobiles in case we loose someone in the woods
ohmy.gif


In. Although I may not stay the whole ride as I have a stock take to do overnight.
French_Aristo
QUOTE(sandy hill @ Feb 3 2011, 09:25 AM) *
In. Although I may not stay the whole ride as I have a stock take to do overnight.

Don't worry. We will be back before dusk innocent.gif
Bent Wheel
QUOTE(French_Aristo @ Feb 2 2011, 08:08 PM) *
The trip there is more for the view we get from the top of the hill before heading toward the corkscrew than anything else.



Ahh, is this the view which includes the derelict 3M building, Easthampstead tower block and the newly refurbished Bracknell and Wokingham College, enough to make a grown man cry, such is the beauty unsure.gif

Oh yeah, I am in for Sunday, not sure how many miles I will manage but we shall see. Speaking to Muscleburn he is in as well although he may have to bail out just after 11am as he has a lunchtime commitment.
thel33ter
Looks like I'm out, but may show up on the day. Very unlikely though. My mum doesn't like me meeting strange men from the internets in the woods agree.gif
mbElf
QUOTE(Stan Leigh @ Jan 31 2011, 04:00 PM) *
MBelf , if you can sort a Tunnel Hill ride , I'm sure there would be plenty of interest. Sandy Hill's little jolly was well received , we all agreed somewhere new with a local guide is always looked forward to . stupidlyhappy.gif


Ok, i will sort out some dates and then get back to you guys.


QUOTE(thel33ter @ Jan 31 2011, 07:38 PM) *
He was out on Saturday, and crashed into the same shoulder again... But he seems fine.

Tunnel Hill is much more compact than Swinley, and has less trails, but they are all well made, and have plenty of bombholes. Not too much climbing either.


Darn, i hope cd bought a new helmet... You're not leading him down crazy drop offs and jumps are you thel33ter rolleyes.gif


QUOTE(deadkenny @ Feb 2 2011, 08:01 AM) *
Linked with Porridgepot over the road, there's enough there to keep me happy for hours playing about. If you're looking for long XC loops then not really a good place though.


Not sure if i agree on that, the guys i normally cycle with join TH and Porridge pot into one big loop. Its awesome. I love that place although i have not been there for ages. There is a lot there. Will sort something out - perhaps some of the bikeradar lot might be interested DK?


FA,

Can't wait until Sunday - 45K in swinley... is that really possible? looking forward to it anyway - good training for South Downs Way in the summer think.gif
Shmikuk
Looking like it should be a good crowd Sunday!
Theleeter, your dad can vouch for most of us! ( plus were no stranger than he is ;p )
thel33ter
QUOTE(Shmikuk @ Feb 3 2011, 07:02 PM) *
Looking like it should be a good crowd Sunday!
Theleeter, your dad can vouch for most of us! ( plus were no stranger than he is ;p )



Trust me, I've tried... dry.gif

@MBelf - he got a new lid, and was very worried that he had scratched it when he crashed tongue.gif

He didn't do the Tunnel Hill ride, he crashed at Swinley the day before.

Seems perfect now though.
French_Aristo
QUOTE(mbElf @ Feb 3 2011, 06:48 PM) *
Can't wait until Sunday - 45K in swinley... is that really possible? looking forward to it anyway - good training for South Downs Way in the summer think.gif

Not quite the same as the terrain is very different.
Hill in Swinley/Sandhurst are very short unlike the one in south down that sometime seems to be like they go on forever.
Also, no chalk here the place into an ice ring when wet.
This said, 45km with about 65/70% of it in single tracks is always good exercice but as the ride grow, the pace will suffer.
I am starting to think that we are going to have to use a corner man system so that we don't loose anyone (by accident) and still keep a pace that aloud to finish the ride in daylight
Here is an idea of how 40+km happen in Swinley (not exactly Sunday route but you get the idea)
Kerr
Im sure you guys are aware of the gov selling off the forests.
Crowthorn wood is Forestry commission (corkscrew, bombholes etc) so this is pretty close to home.

Technically if sold privately this could remove access to all but the devils highway track (tunnel to gate near seagul) for horses and bikers and the path from the chair to the tunnel.
They could (im not saying they would) fence off the whole area.

I suspect if sold this will be inevitable once they get a few horse riding and mountain bike injuries in the area and insurance on thier back.

Get over to the other thread, read up and hassle your MP.

Kerr

DrBike
With all the ongoing excitement around the 46km ride on Sunday, don't forget that there's also a "normal" ride on Saturday - see the calendar for details.
Vespa1871
QUOTE(DrBike @ Feb 4 2011, 09:45 AM) *
With all the ongoing excitement around the 46km ride on Sunday, don't forget that there's also a "normal" ride on Saturday - see the calendar for details.


Normally I would sign up for Saturday but I have some heavy drinking commitments this weekend disgusted.gif

Kerr
QUOTE(DrBike @ Feb 4 2011, 09:45 AM) *
With all the ongoing excitement around the 46km ride on Sunday, don't forget that there's also a "normal" ride on Saturday - see the calendar for details.


IM tempted as the wind will have dried the place out.
Im also pretty bike unfit at the moment, which makes me in two minds.

mmmm

Kerr
DrBike
QUOTE(Vespa1871 @ Feb 4 2011, 01:47 PM) *
Normally I would sign up for Saturday but I have some heavy drinking commitments this weekend disgusted.gif

Rugby related?

QUOTE(Kerr @ Feb 4 2011, 03:01 PM) *
Im also pretty bike unfit at the moment, which makes me in two minds.

I'm in no shape at all.
Vespa1871
QUOTE(DrBike @ Feb 4 2011, 04:18 PM) *
Rugby related?


Football and NCT class reunion. 6 father's with green cards.....terrifying!

Back on bike feb 12th agree.gif
huw
QUOTE(Vespa1871 @ Feb 4 2011, 01:47 PM) *
Normally I would sign up for Saturday but I have some heavy drinking commitments this weekend disgusted.gif



QUOTE(DrBike @ Feb 4 2011, 04:18 PM) *
Rugby related?


Certainly is for me. Just steeling myself for a mighty drinking session tonight.


deadkenny
QUOTE(mbElf @ Feb 3 2011, 06:48 PM) *
Not sure if i agree on that, the guys i normally cycle with join TH and Porridge pot into one big loop. Its awesome. I love that place although i have not been there for ages. There is a lot there. Will sort something out - perhaps some of the bikeradar lot might be interested DK?
FA

True you can build a big loop pretty much anywhere, just I'd have thought you'd be looping round and round on the fire roads to get any distance. Not looking for pounding away on long XC loops though, at least not until I've got the hard tail built. Currently just looking for "gnarly" stuff, twisty stuff and gnary twisty stuff in a downward direction biggrin.gif

Anyway, keep trying to get some of the BR lot interested in TH. Cooldad and thel33ter have done it a few times now. Worth a go, although now they've ripped down some of the northshore and the seesaw it's got less interest. The bomb holes and steep gravel shutes beside the railway are still pretty "gnarly" though, and I've only done Porridgepot once.

Talking of the MoD areas though, adding to the concerns over the Gov sell off of FC land (though they're talking leasing now), the MoD is getting cold feet about riders on their land...

http://www.singletrackworld.com/2011/01/ac...s-a-new-threat/

I have a feeling the specific cases mentioned there may actually be around Tunnel Hill or the lands around Aldershot. Makes me wonder if there was a smash on TH recently and someone tried to sue the MoD.

I think the solution to all this is to have a "I waive my rights" permit system on private land. Doesn't have to be a fee based permit, just something which basically means you accept all responsibility and costs if you half kill or kill yourself on their land. That way they may be less concerned about getting sued.

Then again, Swinley's permit system I think says you accept responsibility and risks, but still people have sued them after nasty accidents and that's resulted in things getting torn up.
French_Aristo
QUOTE(Kerr @ Feb 4 2011, 03:01 PM) *
IM tempted as the wind will have dried the place out.
Im also pretty bike unfit at the moment, which makes me in two minds.

mmmm

Kerr


For what I heard about your rides, this will be a walk in the park for you.
Pace will be pretty slow and we will have a fairly large amount of stops to insure that everyone can regroup
Also my bike is in serious need of maintenance (new drive chain needed and back brake need bleeding) that I do not think I will be able to do before the ride so I will go to my storage to dig up and old Carera Bangee x that weight about a ton so I am not going to leed anyone anywhere very fast...
Bent Wheel
Muscleburn and myself are probably going to start riding about 8am and get an hour in before meeting the rest of you on Sunday morning. Muscleburn has to be away by 11am and I need to be finishing about 12:30, so figure putting in an hour before the group session starts will allow us to get a decent ride out and up the miles.

Will see you all by the Go Ape gate at 9am?

SinfulHedgehog
QUOTE(DrBike @ Feb 4 2011, 04:18 PM) *
I'm in no shape at all.


Circles are still shapes! wink.gif
Shmikuk
QUOTE(French_Aristo @ Feb 4 2011, 10:04 PM) *
For what I heard about your rides, this will be a walk in the park for you.
Pace will be pretty slow and we will have a fairly large amount of stops to insure that everyone can regroup
Also my bike is in serious need of maintenance (new drive chain needed and back brake need bleeding) that I do not think I will be able to do before the ride so I will go to my storage to dig up and old Carera Bangee x that weight about a ton so I am not going to leed anyone anywhere very fast...


Anyone offended easily may want to bring earplugs! I remember last time you bought the big heavy bike the air was blue!
French_Aristo
QUOTE(Shmikuk @ Feb 5 2011, 08:47 AM) *
Anyone offended easily may want to bring earplugs! I remember last time you bought the big heavy bike the air was blue!

I found the time to bleed the brakes so I will take the Focus as I rather ride it with only 15 out of the 27 gears (need to change cable as I run out of adjustment a while back) than the bangee unless I am only doing DH
Hopefully I have use my over the bars quota for the week (or even month last night with 3 impressive ones that had Stan piss himself laughing due to the quality of them and the profanities coming out of my mouth during and after. rolleyes.gif
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